I have just been on the phone to SEPA to make a complaint regards the flaring they told me they have been monitoring it since 4.50 the plant is in the process of shutting down due to a major gas leak, fife emergency fire and rescue are on site and will remain there all night.

! am sick to the back teeth of this time bomb on my doorstep it should be closed down permanent. 

                   chic.

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24 Comments

  1. Helen (Lochgelly)

    December 5, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    @Gary. How do you know its not blowing this way? When did you become an expert?

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  2. Pete Smith

    December 5, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Really worrying to know its been a major gas leak and the emergency services have been called out. We shouldn’t have to be living with this kind of threat! Also sick to the back teeth of this constant flaring and the noise its making! Yet another night when sleep is disturbed by the flare and the noise. God knows what pollutants are being pumped out. Its about time we were being compensated for all the crap we’re having to put up with, better still, just shut it down. So much for the promises that we would only have to tolerate the plant for 25yrs!

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  3. Jimmy

    December 6, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Hi guys, I work at Mossmorran, There is not and never has been any threat of any damage to anyones health through gas leaks or flaring in the 26 years of production at this plant. without the plant you would feel a massive dunt in the British economy and I am sure that at least some of the “haters” out there are massive in to the barbaric independence idea. have a think how this would effect your life. Mossmorran unfortunately might be a small inconvenience to you but rest assured without it we would be a lot worse off as a nation. I suggest before complaining and bad mouthing from now on you do some research into what you are talking about. Shell and Exxon have outstanding safety records also, if you drive these companies out someone else will come in nd take the reigns, thus potentially lighting up your skies on a more frequent basis. WE ARE ALL ABOUT SAFETY, WE WOULD NOT ENDANGER ANYONE IN THE PLANT LET ALONE THE GENERAL PUBLIC. over and out!!!

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    • Helen

      December 6, 2012 at 2:15 pm

      @ Jimmy. I don’t understand your connection between Independence and the Mossmorran plant?

      Of course, safety is paramount at the plant, I think we would all agree on that. Also it is accepted that all staff at the plant will be doing their job well and with diligence. However, there are incidents over the years when black smoke has been seen pouring out of the plant, the noise pollution over several days does make people ill, the light pollution throughout the night has an effect on people’s sleep. When we know there has been a gas leak and the emergency services have been called out, of course, we are concerned about this! Last year there was a major incident when the plant had some sort of explosion and we were all awakened with loud noises at 3 am in the morning! Yes, the plant does impact upon our quality of life.

      Why not Air Monitors?

      I hadn’t heard about any concerns about Mercury leaks coming through the pipes?

      I do take on board your points about the plant and the people who work there being concerned with safety of the plant. Please also take on board our concerns about safety also as residents who have lived beside the plant for 25 years.

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    • Angie

      December 6, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      Would be interested to learn what position you have within Exxon mobil and what qualificatins you require to hold said post.This would help us to determine whether or not we could be reassured at this point. And as for the “small inconvenience” Please tell me what i am supposed to tell my small children who are waking up in tears from the light and noise pollution. Also would just like to clarify, is this an official attack on the worried “ignorant” residents of the surronding area? Also if there is not a problem at the plant can you personnally tell us why the plant lied about how many tonnes of carbon dioxide it emitted in 2008. A lie for which it was fined £2.8m for. Clearly it is hard for us “complainers” to understand why Exxonmobil would lie in the first place if there was not a problem? So given this information why should we believe anything we are told?

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  4. Jimmy

    December 6, 2012 at 1:13 am

    Oh and further to this, these monitoring stations are also a joke, possibly we should just set up a wee class to teach people what we actually do on our site. I have seldom come across any mercury in the slightest form and there has never been a threat of any damaging amounts of mercury coming through the pipe lines. And Benzene I hope that is a joke, you would be in more danger going to your local petrol station and breathing in the fumes.

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    • Lochgelly

      December 6, 2012 at 10:16 am

      The only person who has mentioned mercury is you, is there a problem with mercury from the plant that we should know about?

      There is a range of chemicals that we are concerned about;

      Shell

      * Benzene
      * Carbon dioxide
      * Carbon monoxide
      * Hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs)
      * Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs)
      * Methane
      * Nitrogen oxides, NO and NO2 as NO2
      * Nitrous oxide
      * Non-methane volatile organic compounds (NMVOCs)
      * Particulate matter – PM10 and smaller (PM2.5?)
      * Sulphur oxides, SO2 and SO3 as SO2

      ExxonMobil

      * Benzene
      * Butadiene
      * Carbon dioxide
      * Carbon monoxide
      * Ethylene
      * Methane
      * Nitrogen oxides, NO and NO2 as NO2
      * Nitrous oxide
      * Non-methane volatile organic compounds (NMVOCs)
      * Particulate matter – PM10 and smaller (PM2.5?)
      * Propylene
      * Sulphur oxides, SO2 and SO3 as SO2
      * Toluene

      Both companies are mutli-billion international companies, who can easily afford to pay for automatic time based monitors, and with the monitors in place both companies would have definitive proof regarding air pollutant outputs.

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  5. Mary T.

    December 6, 2012 at 7:18 am

    Woke up this morning to the roar of Mossmorran, the pulsating flare lighting up the room, and oh, the shadow flicker from the blades of the turbine sitting in front of the flair. We were reassurred by the developers that we would not be affected by the shadow flicker when the Moss was flairing, they said they would tilt the blades during flairing, guess they just forgot. The joys of living in Lochgelly! Its really not right that we should be expected to live with all this ‘stuff.’

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  6. Gary

    December 12, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I notice Jimmys comments have been “hidden”, thats laughable. He was talking a lot of sense. There indeed has been, if not on this site, but other media sorces, worries about mercury so lets get that nonsense over with. I work at the plant also and can confirm that never has the smoke emitted from the flare stack been harmful and will not have made people ill. In 2008 Exxon Mobil were fined for giving a mis reading of emissions and not because they were particularly high. Both plants closely monitor emissions and in the main part the clearer “smoke” is steam and the darker smoke is hydrocarbons which have been burned and are in this quantity unharmful even by SEPAs strict guidelines.

    I can also clarify that there was no incident involving an explosion, there are two flares at ground level which the two sites share to minimise the light pollution caused by the plant. There was a small problem with one of these causing load bangs. Nothing dangerous. As for the light and noise pollution, this is a valid point. But we do try to keep this to a minimum.

    As for Jimmy’s independence theory, if you look forward to the future, Mossmorran would be a key part in Scotland having a chance of surviving as an independent country.

    I can confirm that my position at Mossmorran is of high importance and have accumulated multiple degrees along the way, so yes I know what im talking about.

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    • Lochgelly

      December 12, 2012 at 3:48 pm

      Thank you for commenting and providing further information. The reason Jimmys comment has been hidden is that it has received too many negative votes. The comment is still viewable by clicking the View comment link.

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    • Wee Stooshie

      December 12, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      @Gary you failed to mention that the latest report shows that the moss exceeded regulated emission levels on a couple of occasions.

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  7. Alex

    December 12, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    “the clearer “smoke” is steam and the darker smoke is hydrocarbons which have been burned”

    My understanding is that the steam helps dissolve the hydrocarbons that are being burned off. If you get any dark smoke then this is due to incomplete combustion. This is dangerous especially if some of the pollutants are PM2.5 which can get breathed in and lodged in the lungs.

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  8. Chris Hannay

    April 3, 2013 at 9:27 am

    If you’re really that bothered – move house
    If you’re worried about damaging your health – wear a mask
    If you want there to be no jobs at all in Fife – try and shut it down
    Light pollution – get better curtains
    Noise pollution – get better windows

    Seriously Fifes economy is crap as it is…and i dont think someone getting a good nights sleep will fix that.

    rant over

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    • Wee Stooshie

      April 3, 2013 at 10:56 am

      The troll is strong from the boy racer who stays in Glenrothes.

      How many people do you think live in Fife and work at the Moss?

      Fife population is estimated at 367,370 and 170 employees and 50 core contractors work at the plant. Not the backbone of the Fife economy.

      Stick to wasting money on your VW. Was your first car a Nova?

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